Comments on: When Christians criticize the Church http://doctrineontap.com/2011/07/09/when-christians-criticize-the-church/ God...I thirst for you ~ Ps 63 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:26:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Lazo http://doctrineontap.com/2011/07/09/when-christians-criticize-the-church/#comment-445 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:42:28 +0000 http://christopherlazo.com/?p=2197#comment-445 I like your perspective on children with all of this; and I actually love book-length posts!
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By: Lisa http://doctrineontap.com/2011/07/09/when-christians-criticize-the-church/#comment-444 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:09:05 +0000 http://christopherlazo.com/?p=2197#comment-444 I try to remind myself that condemnation comes from the enemy, but conviction comes from the Father. It is gentle, and sweet when it comes, because it comes with “a way out.” Our Father doesn’t just show us what we are doing wrong, but He brings with it a vision and a hope for how His Spirit wants to bring change. Oh, that we would take this approach with His Bride. If we are only seeing what is wrong, then we can bring that to the Father, and wait on Him to bring the Holy Spirit’s way of grace in that area! (Ex: instead of: “why don’t we care for the homeless?”, pray for workers to care for the homeless-God may have a job for you!!; or, why aren’t we discipling and mentoring more people?, pray and wait for the Holy Spirit, perhaps He will guide you into discipling and mentoring!!!)
Quite honestly, it is so easy to fail in this area. It is so much easier to point out faults…. With my kiddos, it is much easier to tell them what they are doing wrong, rather than to stand with them and say, “I know what it’s like to be (selfish, proud, angry….). Let’s pray and ask for Jesus’ help together.
Sorry for the book.. I really like this post. :) I do think there are personalities that tend toward criticism, but when tempered by the Holy Spirit, they can be very helpful in building up the Bride. So there is hope!!! And I am really glad the story was fictional. ]]>
By: Chris Lazo http://doctrineontap.com/2011/07/09/when-christians-criticize-the-church/#comment-443 Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:05:10 +0000 http://christopherlazo.com/?p=2197#comment-443 Yes! I think understanding your point; that we are incorporated into the bride/church of Christ would probably change so much. It would allow us to critique, yet to do so with a humble introspection as well. I can’t wait for your book! It sounds like a great pair for They Like Jesus But Not The Church.

(I’ll tell Britt hello for you if he ever comes back from surfing)

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By: Dan http://doctrineontap.com/2011/07/09/when-christians-criticize-the-church/#comment-440 Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:26:28 +0000 http://christopherlazo.com/?p=2197#comment-440 Hey Chris! You are writing the topic of pretty much what my next book is all about. And for those that go back to the early church to think that was the ideal, you only have to read 1 Corinthians and other sections to see the early church had their fair share of the very same messes, power struggles, selfishness etc. that we do today because we are all messy people in need of a Savior and of God’s Spirit to help change us. So whether early church or modern church, people are still messy so there is no perfect or non-messy church. Until the day there is no more sin and the old order of things has passed away (Revelation 21)….. Jesus loves His bride and although we are messy folks due to sin, we shouldn’t use that as an excuse to dismiss it, but try to keep the Bride as clean as possible and to criticize the Bride is to criticize ourselves as we are the church. So that is why I love Reality Church and others who are creating the future church and bringing hope.

One of these days, I hope we get to see each other again and hang out! Say hello to Britt!

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